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#1 2016-12-04 16:54:10

Tegaan
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Pig feed

Those of you who keep pigs year round.....what do you feed your sows? Do you feed differently when they are pregnant? Lactuating?


I had been getting my feed from an oganic pig farm but when I asked for a nutritional analysis or what was in their feed they said I was being unreasonable and do not want to work with me anymore.

Now I have less than 30 days of feed (dry sow), a pregnant pig and a young pig. I have no idea what is in dry sow to find an equivalent food.

I am very distressed. can anyone help me?

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#2 2016-12-04 17:31:12

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Re: Pig feed

Unreasonable?  Sounds like they might have something to hide...or they cannot afford the analysis.  I have asked for a nutritional breakdown of the grain I buy from the feed mill and they have approximate numbers but not exact.  However, they can always tell me what I am getting, ingredient-wise. 

I am without piggy knowledge but I am sure someone will have some ideas soon.  However, if your feed was terminated for asking a question i will suggest it is a good thing you are able to move on.


Embrace your mistakes....they are life's most meaningful education.

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#3 2016-12-04 17:58:46

Tegaan
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Re: Pig feed

They have the analysis. The farm has recently changed hands. I got feed from the old owner as well, he was able to provide me with analysis on starter, grower, finisher no problem. That was all I needed at that time. So I thought it would be no problem to get that info on the other type of feed. I am just trying to be a responsible pig owner and do the best for my pigs.  Need information though.

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#4 2016-12-04 19:03:45

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Re: Pig feed

Dry sows do not require the same volume nor protein content of lactating or pregnant sows.
You don’t want your gestating sow to get too fat or your lactating sow to lose too much body condition.

I only buy a 'grower' feed from the local farmer (it doesn't have 'energy analysis' listed) but on the label, it has this:

Barley, soy, alfalfa, minerals with ADE, salt and canola oil
Crude protein 16.2%
Crude fibre 7%
Ca (act) .77%
P (act) . 52%
Na (act) .25%
Zn (act) 132 mg/kg
Cu (act) 44 mg/kg
Vit A (min) 6500 IU/kg
Vit D (min) 1000 IU/kg
Vit E (min) 25 IU/kg


For your gestating/dry sows you can feed something along the lines of 70% barley, 5% alfalfa, 10% oats, 10% peas, and 5% of premix (based on what is on the label - this is additional minerals etc and we got it from Ponoka - made by Country Junction Feed ). You can add  straw to increase fibre too. Just watch body condition. I think this is about 13-14 percent protein rather than the 16-18 for growers.

For the lactating sow, we use about 80% grower and 20% barley and increased their intake gradually over about 10 days to 12-15 lbs per day


Check out articles at Prairie Swine Center www.prairieswine.com


Also, if you really are stuck, you could send email to this nutritionist.


Daniel Columbus, PhD
Research Associate – Nutrition
Prairie Swine Centre, Inc.
Box 21057, 2105 – 8th Street East
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan CANADA
S7H 5N9

W: 306-667-7432
C: 639-480-5484
F: 306-955-2510

dan.columbus@usask.ca
www.prairieswine.com

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#5 2016-12-04 22:42:10

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Re: Pig feed

Cathyjk how many pounds of feed do you feed your gestating sows?

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#6 2016-12-05 06:43:29

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Re: Pig feed

I have large blacks and they got about 6-7 lbs a day give or take with some added veggies and fruit when we had them
Sort of general is 4.5 lbs to 6 depending on condition and how big tje sow is - large blacks i figure are 600 lbs

I feed twice a day and soak food for ar least 12 hours

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#7 2016-12-05 15:42:39

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Re: Pig feed

I have been feeding the same feed for 30 years never change. All sows ,boars ,weaners, and finishing pigs get the same feed in different amounts. We raise Berks and they get a sow ration of 14%
Crude protein 14%
Crude fibre 6%
Crude Fat 3%
Sodium  0.2%
Calcium 0.65% plus other minerals

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#8 2016-12-05 15:56:23

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Re: Pig feed

Our Berks are fed a 1/3 oats and 2/3 Sure Crop hog grower mixture.  We do adjust amount as required.  We but both in tote bags from the local feed store.


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#9 2016-12-05 16:42:11

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Re: Pig feed

Snow toys and rosewood farm how many pounds do you feed your gestating sows per day?

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#10 2016-12-05 17:01:56

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Re: Pig feed

Different sows require different amounts but on average 5-7 lbs. If she is a good producer maybe a bit more. Watch their body condition and adjust you don't want over fat sows

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#11 2016-12-05 17:35:55

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Re: Pig feed

I am currently feeding (which is a reduction) 10.5 pounds a day for a just pregnant gilt and a 4 month old. They are getting a dry sow mix (but I do not know the nutritional values). They act like they are starving. They have a large area so have roots etc. But it is now getting cold here.....should I increase feed a bit? Sow is a good weight, not fat.

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#12 2016-12-05 21:38:46

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Re: Pig feed

Are they out in the weather?   Or do they have access to a large warm shelter, well bedded?  If not, get a couple of large round

bales of straw, so they can burrow in for warmth, helps on the feed bill.  Anything cold eats more.

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#13 2016-12-06 03:28:31

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Re: Pig feed

They always act starved.
Amount you are feeding sounds about right but some feeds dont have as much energy
If you think she isnt getting enough bump it up by half a pound

Grains for pigs need to be chopped or rolled not whole
If you see lots of grain in feces she is passing it thru and not getting the nutrition

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#14 2016-12-06 03:58:32

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Re: Pig feed

I am going to give them some whole grain but I will be fermenting it.....that should be ok right??

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#15 2016-12-06 06:11:27

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Re: Pig feed

We haven't measured by weight, but I would say we're at or around six pounds per day.  We do adjust depending on circumstances.  We use steam rolled oats and at times served wet.


Rosewood Farm,
Breeder Berkshire Pigs.
Black and Blue Cochins, Blue Laced Red Wyandottes.
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