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#1 2017-06-06 03:31:37

Shnookie
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From: Regina, Saskatchewan
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Almost lost my house to fire

On Saturday afternoon, while I was waiting for chicks to hatch, I had to quickly evacuate my house because of a grass fire.  Some idiots had been burning in the ditches near my place last week, and didn't make sure the fire was out.  It was an entirely stupid thing to do.  We have been having horribly strong winds that gust even higher, rotate, and change directions, for more than a week.  Some straw in the ditch was smoldering and when the wind got up (about 80 kph) Saturday it fanned it into flames.  It was also really hot out.  The fence, pasture, and some trees on the north end of my property were burned.  It followed the grass around the dugout and was heading for the house when the fire department (volunteer) got it under control.  I have never had this kind of a close call before. It was scary and I sure don't want it to happen again.  I took my purse, me, and some of my house pets into the truck and went across the road until it was safe to come back.  My insurance won't cover that sort of damage.  The fire department tried to find out who was lighting the fire, but the people we suspect have denied it.  I am really upset and ticked off about this and I'm going to do what I can to find out who it was.  I saw the people from a distance, but don't know who they were.  I believe it was the farmer who owns the land across the highway from me.


Starting with Blue, Black, and Splash Ameraucanas and Red Cuckoo Basque (Marraduna).

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#2 2017-06-06 05:53:56

Tegaan
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

Glad things were not worse. Congrats on the chicks.

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#3 2017-06-06 09:44:03

killerbunny
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

SO glad it wasn't worse!


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#4 2017-06-06 10:02:03

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From: Waterloo/St. Jacobs, Ontario
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

That's too close for comfort.  Sorry that you are going through the stress of this and very happy to hear that you and yours are safe.


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#5 2017-06-06 11:25:22

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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

Doesn't take long for a fool to mess up your day.  Had a similar thing happen once.  Dumba$$ with the farm next to my Grandparents sent a teenager out to burn piles of old potato tops with nothing but a propane lighter.  Sets the fires and then leaves.  Just so happened we were working out back so we saw it head for the trees.   Fought it ourselves until the volunteer fire department showed up.  If that had gotten down over the hillside (into steep terrain) it would have been horrible to deal with.  Don't think anything was done to moron.

Glad yours had a happy ending too.


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#6 2017-06-06 11:30:06

Robbie
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

Yikes! Glad it was OK in the end but far too close for comfort. Hopefully the perpetrators learned their lesson!

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#7 2017-06-06 11:50:13

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From: Carnwood, Alberta
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

Fire can wipe you out in an instant.  Out here, it is a 20 minute drive from the fire department.  We lost a neighbor house to a lightning strike just a few years back.  The fear is real and tangible.


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#8 2017-06-06 20:54:12

Robbie
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

Remember this  from last year? How on earth does this happen?
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world … ish-island

And I get so frustrated when it takes me forever to get a fire started in the woodstove with newspaper, dry kindling, dry wood and a BBQ lighter. :tantrum:

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#9 2017-06-06 23:22:51

shaneb99
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From: Strathmore
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

About 10 years ago I got a call at work from our neighbour who said we better get home because the fire department thought our house was going up. We drove home in a panic as as we got closer we could see big clouds of smoke on the horizon. When we got home there were 4 fire trucks on our lawn and a score of Bush buggys racing around our pasture.  The neighbour a mile away across the valley was burning trash and turned around to find a 6 ft wall of flames behind him. He best it out of there and called the fire department. As it turned out there was some type of regional meeting going on in Strathmore and 4 fire department responded including a huge pumper truck out of Calgary that was spraying down our house.. The fire reached the bottom of our garden and slowed in the short grass, then the wind changed and the fire turned north toward a row of acerages up our road. About that time another neighbour showed up with a 60 ft disc and began plowing a fire guard along those acerages.  With no where further to go the fire department was able to get the fire under control. In all it burned through 6 quarters of mostly grass land but miraculously no houses or livestock was lost.  All the fences had to be replaced but his insurance paid for it.  I never thought I'd see a row of fence posts on a barbed wire fence all burning like torches.

I can totally sympathize with you Shnookie, it's not something anyone should have to go through.


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#10 2017-06-07 03:14:27

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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

The volunteer fire department that services this area is 25 minutes from here in a normal vehicle, but it can take them a lot longer to get people together and drive here.  They were short handed Saturday too so it made it harder for them to fight the fire.

I saw the guys who lit the fire both days - they started it on Tuesday and again on Thursday last week.  It's really dry around here and is always windy, but more so the last few weeks.  The fire was left unsupervised several times and was not properly put out.  Unfortunately I could not identify either of them - they were too far away.  The fire department and I suspect it is the guy who farms the quarter across from me, or people who work for him, that lit the fires.  When the fire department talked to him about it, he denied that he did it.  There is no one else that would want the straw in the ditch burned.  The ditch is next to his quarter.  The fire department was called out on Wednesday and Friday to deal with hot spots.  I had no idea until I talked to the Fire Chief yesterday.  They used chemical foam to put the fire out.  Some got in the dugout I use for water, and lots is in the ground where the fire was.  Now I don't know if my water is safe for drinking so I'm using bottled water for me and the animals.  I called a lab in Saskatoon to find out more about the risks of the chemical, but no one has called back yet.

Get this.  I talked to the RCMP today to see if there could be any charges applied if I could find out who lit the fire.  They told me even if I find out, no charges could be applied because my fire is considered a "separate incident".  Because the fire department deemed the fire to be "out" on the first two trips, there is no way it caused mine.  Serious!
So I can't even go after anyone for compensation for damages unless I can find out who it is.  The fire department will be billing for the three calls, whenever they identify the culprit.  Farmers should have fire and liability insurance so I don't know why they wouldn't admit to doing it.  I suspect immature losers who have never had to be responsible for their actions.


Starting with Blue, Black, and Splash Ameraucanas and Red Cuckoo Basque (Marraduna).

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#11 2017-06-07 10:48:36

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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

So glad you didn't lose it all. It sucks when nothing will be done to the idiots. Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid.


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#12 2017-06-07 13:08:04

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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

Yikes! Some people should not be allowed out of the house!

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#13 2017-07-07 03:07:19

Shnookie
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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

It's been just over a month since the fire.  The grass, wild willows, and weeds are growing back in spite of the hot and dry conditions.  My big willow trees are mostly dead from the trunks being burned.  The fire department has been investigating, trying to find out who lit the fire.  They want to bill them for the fire calls, and I understand they can also fine the person responsible for starting the fire.  They are having no luck.  The people that most of us know lit the fires have denied it.  Some of my neighbors saw them, and know who they are, but will not tell the fire department who it is.  Pretty bad.  Apparently they would prefer to keep a wealthy farmer from having to pay the bill for the fire call, and let me be billed for it instead.  Nice neighbors.  Most of the farmers here are well off, and several are millionaires.  I am neither.   The fire department did not want to bill me for the call.  I do have fire insurance that should cover it, but that isn't the point, as far as I'm concerned.  My neighbors don't know that I have insurance for fire. Why is it that wealthy people are often weasels who find a way to avoid responsibility for the things they do? 

I've been wanting to move and this just proves I should.  After 18 years here there was no one who called 911 when they saw my property on fire, no one came in to see if I was home (my vehicle was here) or to see if I knew there was a fire.  They just drove through the smoke and kept on going.  There was one neighbor who did come to see if I knew about the fire - she got here when I was on the phone with 911.  Her son owns the farm land around my acreage.  I admit not everyone that drove by would have known me, but a lot of them would have.  Even so, would they have needed to know me in order to report the fire?   I live on a secondary highway that is mostly used by local people.  In 2014 my barn blew partway over during a bad storm.  The next day I was slogging through the mud and rain hauling things out of the barn.   A bunch of people sat on the highway in their cars watching me.  I don't know who they all were but it sure was annoying.  No one offered to help, they just watched.  They would have been mostly local people.  I have a very open yard and I always thought if I was laying in the yard hurt that someone would notice and stop to help.  Now I don't think they would even notice.


Starting with Blue, Black, and Splash Ameraucanas and Red Cuckoo Basque (Marraduna).

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#14 2017-07-07 03:18:45

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Re: Almost lost my house to fire

:shock:  That's horrible!  Walter Matthau from Grumpy Old Men am I   ....tolerance.... I have plenty of it... patience I lack.  The "pet answer" that is the only thing "common" these days  " I didn't know "  seems to get everyone off the hook, regardless of how stupid it makes them look.  I remember a time when if your answer was "I don't/didn't know" you were somewhat encouraged or even obligated to change that.  Your neighbours are in my opinion obligated to offer assistance to someone in need.  Like you've stated, if you were lying on the ground in your driveway...it is negligent not to offer assistance or call for assistance.   If you asked your doctor a question and his/her reply was that they didn't know....would you not want them to find out and then let you know.  It's easy to say just move...but that is not always a viable option especially with our economy these days.  I sure hope things turn around for you.   Sorry for the rant...but stuff like this hits a nerve!  :tantrum:


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#15 2017-07-07 09:30:45

Martin Grove Farm
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From: Waterloo/St. Jacobs, Ontario
Registered: 2009-11-02
Posts: 19227

Re: Almost lost my house to fire

That's terrible.  The bill is bad enough but add the self absorbed, entitled neighbours to it, and the fact that they don't care about what happens to anyone, I would be severely ticked off too.  I am happy to know that you and your property have come out of this with very little damage, except to the willows.  The real kicker is knowing you live someplace that must make you feel somewhat of an outsider, even after that many years.  Sorry  :hugz:


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