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#1 2017-10-27 17:28:16

shaneb99
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From: Strathmore
Registered: 2012-08-28
Posts: 1895

Selecting breeders

I was watching a video of Joel Salatin, the Pastured Poultry guy talking about selecting breeders. Among the normal things like size, shape, colour etc. he mentioned that he never breeds a hen until she is 2 years old.  He said it's to make sure she is healthy, smart enough to survive hawk attacks and things like that. It's an interesting concept that I've never thought about. I don't breed pullets until the following spring. I like to make sure they make it through the winter. But I don't know if I'm disciplined enough to wait until the following year. I'm usually anxious to see what progress I'm making in my breeding and I frequently butcher my older roosters at the end the year to make room for new ones. What do you think?


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#2 2017-10-27 20:27:59

killerbunny
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From: Brockville, Ontario
Registered: 2012-07-30
Posts: 3036

Re: Selecting breeders

I don't breed my turkeys until their second year to make sure they mature nicely. In the second year I like to see broody inclination.


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#3 2017-10-27 20:58:44

Butterboy
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From: Calgary, Ab
Registered: 2012-01-24
Posts: 405

Re: Selecting breeders

And with a lot of colour patterns, they don't really show properly till the second year. I know of notable breeders of laced and pencilled wyandottes who never breed from pullets. I have herd it with brahmas too.


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#4 2017-10-27 21:55:50

GalaBoys
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From: Alberta
Registered: 2014-01-14
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Re: Selecting breeders

Another reason is for lymphoid leukosis.


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#5 2017-10-28 00:27:21

Schipperkesue
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From: Carnwood, Alberta
Registered: 2010-04-08
Posts: 15431

Re: Selecting breeders

I am 54 and I don’t have time for this.  I have too much work to do with this breed before I die.  hidxing  :veryfunny:


Embrace your mistakes....they are life's most meaningful education.

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#6 2017-10-28 01:40:08

la-chicken
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From: Caroline, Alberta
Registered: 2010-07-24
Posts: 985
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Re: Selecting breeders

Butterboy wrote:

And with a lot of colour patterns, they don't really show properly till the second year. I know of notable breeders of laced and pencilled wyandottes who never breed from pullets. I have herd it with brahmas too.

We were able to chat with Brian Knox just a wee bit ago.  This is a man who knows the lace breeds.  He always waits for the second year for breeding.  Learned a lots for this man.  And came to the realization that you do not really know your birds till the 2nd year.  You get to see your birds in a stage of maturity and after the moult feathering will be more true.

Last edited by la-chicken (2017-10-28 01:41:05)


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#7 2017-10-28 11:33:25

killerbunny
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From: Brockville, Ontario
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Re: Selecting breeders

I hear you la-chicken. I chatted with Terry Gerow for hours and learnt so much about assessment for turkeys! Lovely to have someone show you rather than just reading it!


Mixed collection of chickens, trio of Blue Columbian Wyandottes,BSW turkeys.
RIP Lucky the Very Brave splash Wyandotte rooster.
RIP little Muppet the rescue cat.

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#8 2017-10-29 02:01:59

OC
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From: Ontario
Registered: 2014-08-12
Posts: 36

Re: Selecting breeders

I have certainly seen some surprises after the "adult" molt so breeding after second year makes lots of sense.
I have a closed flock, so waiting two years to see who survives isn't that crucial, the flock has been "weeded out" long time ago. :)
I prefer to blend breeding pens of 1 2 and 3 year olds, seems to work well here.

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#9 2017-10-29 02:45:58

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From: Yellowhead County, Alberta
Registered: 2017-06-19
Posts: 6

Re: Selecting breeders

:goodpost:


If you can't find me I'm busy charming the Brahmas and, of course, turkeys.
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#10 2017-10-29 11:30:04

lornem
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From: Drayton, ON.
Registered: 2016-02-21
Posts: 103

Re: Selecting breeders

I don't breed for show, only production traits. To minimize inbreeding I change the roosters every year.
I breed all my selected pullets, 50% of the best 2 yr old hens, 50 % of the best 3 yr old etc. thus always culling half my older breeders yearly.
Seems to work for me.


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